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RE: CE Starter grammar
fine.
Regards
Matthew
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Matthew West http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Horn, Graham [mailto:graham.horn@aihw.gov.au]
> Sent: 01 June 2001 09:32
> To: West, Matthew MR SSI-GREA-UK; 'Adam Pease'; suo-ce@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: CE Starter grammar
>
>
>
> Hi Matthew,
> . I don't know whether you're right or not.
>
> . I presume you got my earlier e-mail augmenting
> the structure
> Adam initiated.
>
> . I believe it would pay to use the power of the
> traditional
> GręcoRomanbased grammar rules that have had literally
> thousands of years
> of evolution.
>
> . Once one has a sound structure, by all means restrict it
> down to a smaller sub-set. But if one doesn't get the
> structure right to
> start with, one will end up with something others will be
> able to use as
> evidence that "something like ACE can't possibly work". I'm
> sure you recall
> the many e-mails along that line I copped earlier on.
>
> . I remain absolutely adamant that for a modified
> restricted
> version of a natural language one MUST have a totally
> consistent grammatical
> and semantic structure. That's why I feel there is value in
> taking Adam's
> line at this initial stage.
>
>
>
> Cheers Graham Horn
> National Data Standards Unit
> Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: West, Matthew MR SSI-GREA-UK
> [mailto:Matthew.R.West@IS.shell.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:12 PM
> To: 'Adam Pease'; suo-ce@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: CE Starter grammar
>
>
> Dear Adam,
>
> I think you are starting at the wrong end of the problem. We only
> want to say those things that can be said in KIF, but we want them
> to be easily understood by a consistent translation to/from English.
> So it would be better ot start from teh KIF end (much more
> restricted) and identify English forms for what can be said. This
> would probably give a more restricted grammar than you have
> proposed.
>
> Regards
> Matthew
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Pease [mailto:apease@ks.teknowledge.com]
> > Sent: 01 June 2001 03:15
> > To: suo-ce@ieee.org
> > Subject: CE Starter grammar
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> > I'll suggest the following strawman as a start on a
> > restricted English
> > grammar.
> >
> > sentence
> > / \
> > SNP|Q VP
> > / \ / \
> > Det N|PN V NP|SNP
> > / | \
> > Det M N|PN
> >
> > where:
> > SNP = simple noun phrase
> > NP = noun phrase
> > Det = determiner [the|a|an|all|every]
> > N = noun
> > V = verb
> > VP = verb phrase
> > PN = proper noun
> > M = modifier
> > Q = query word [who|what|where]
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
>