ONT Re: Signs Of Pragmata -- Discussion
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SOP. Discussion Note 6
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JA = Jon Awbrey
RX = Reader X
Re: SOP 2. http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg05411.html
In: SOP. http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd1.html#05410
Dear X,
What happened is that all of the data of the two Tables
went to make up the two Figures, but the Tables grouped
the triples by Interpreter, that is, according to their
presence in the same sign relation, whereas the Figures
regrouped the triples by common Object, that is, taking
their 3-tuples half from Table 1 and half from Table 2.
So we need to look at the whole dataset once again:
JA: Consider the following two sign relations, reflecting, let us say,
the ways that Ann and Bob use the words "Ann", "Bob", "I", "you".
Table 1. Sign Relation of Interpreter A
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| Object | Sign | Interpretant |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| A | "A" | "A" |
| A | "A" | "i" |
| A | "i" | "A" |
| A | "i" | "i" |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| B | "B" | "B" |
| B | "B" | "u" |
| B | "u" | "B" |
| B | "u" | "u" |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
Table 2. Sign Relation of Interpreter B
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| Object | Sign | Interpretant |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| A | "A" | "A" |
| A | "A" | "u" |
| A | "u" | "A" |
| A | "u" | "u" |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
| B | "B" | "B" |
| B | "B" | "i" |
| B | "i" | "B" |
| B | "i" | "i" |
o---------------o---------------o---------------o
JA: Then the 16 triples of the above two Tables can
be arranged around their shared objects like so:
"i" "i"
o o o o
| \ / |
"A" o--A A A--o "A"
"A" o \ | / o "A"
\ o o o /
A--o A o--B
/ o o o \
"A" o / | \ o "A"
"A" o--B B B--o "A"
| / \ |
o o o o
"u" "u"
"i" "i"
o o o o
| \ / |
"B" o--B B B--o "B"
"B" o \ | / o "B"
\ o o o /
B--o B o--A
/ o o o \
"B" o / | \ o "B"
"B" o--A A A--o "B"
| / \ |
o o o o
"u" "u"
RX: This diagram does not parse for me, I am afraid.
I am trying to reconstruct it locally, but I am
unable to reconcile it with the simpler case of
y
/
x o--J
\
z
RX: Please remind me, in this ASCII notation,
you are representing a graph, but the o--
is a directed edge?
Assume so, then I can see
"A"
/
A o--B
\
"A"
from the RHS, for example, but cannot relate that
to the relational table given for Interpreter A.
Yes, that is reading it right, and this is as it should be,
because this triple comes from the Table for Interpreter B.
Jon Awbrey
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