ONT Re: Information = Comprehension x Extension -- Discussion
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ICE. Discussion Note 49
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HT = Hugh Trenchard
Re: ICE Dis 48. http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/msg05350.html
HT: Hi Jon. I've proceeded as far as INT Note 5, 1.2 (just where
it starts to get more mind-bending). Will have to resume later.
Sounds like your e-mate Elijah was asking more or less the same
questions that were springing to my mind. Haven't quite figured
out why your material keeps drawing me in! My heart tells me to
get back to my own current line of inquiry (that word!) about
self-organizing phenomena in bicycle racing (not as fruity as
it may sound at first blush) -- but then my intellect pulls
my eyes to keep reading your stuff!
Always been a 3-cycler myself, but I think
I can grok the dynamics of 2-cycle racing.
There's about four different essays of mine on Diff Log out there,
here is one set of links to them, in order of shortest to longest:
DLOG C. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/thread.html#437
DLOG B. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/thread.html#393
DLOG A. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-April/thread.html#372
DLOG D. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-May/thread.html#478
DLOG D. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-June/thread.html#553
DLOG D. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-June/thread.html#571
Yikes! I see those got fragmented and some paragraphs clipped during
a recent database reshuffle, so don't bother with them unless you are
more masochistic than the average surfer. I've been planning to redo
some of the shorter essays and maybe try to work up a hypertext draft
of the chef d'oeuvre sometime soon, so I will take this as a stimulus
toward that responsibility.
Re*starting the "A" train here:
DLOG A. http://suo.ieee.org/ontology/thrd1.html#05359
HT: Regarding your note about Hofstadter's use of "recursivity" as
muddying what the concept is really about, I think, if I'm not
mistaken, he does distinguish the more formal application of the
term from his novel applications. (Or maybe I'm thinking of some
other source -- can't quite remember, and I don't have the energy
right now to scour GEB to find out ...)
Yes, time, energy, the infernal trade-off ...
Jon Awbrey
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