ONT Re: Zeroth Order Ontology
Jon Awbrey wrote:
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> ZOO. Discussion Note 17
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> Murray,
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> I don't know if you are tuned out or in, but I have just
> touched on an issue that I have tried to discuss several
> times with people who work with topic maps, but couldn't
> work out a coherent or convincing enough way to say it.
> However, I have just constructed some concrete simple
> examples that illustrate the point better than I have
> managed before, so maybe it'd be worth another try.
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> It has to with the fact that certain sorts of negative logical connectives
> are generative enough to build the rest of the logical connectives that
> one needs, the archetypes being Peirce's "amphecks", or NAND and NNOR,
> but that the negative connectives, and thus the full set of operators,
> cannot be generated from positive connectives alone. This means that
> the fundamental building blocks of association need to have a certain
> quality of "negativity" about them in order to support logical links
> between propositions, subjects, topics, or whatever you call them.
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> This is important to me because I always do logic by way of
> transformations on graph-theoretic dynamic data structures,
> and the forms are the same whether they are embodied in
> ramspace or, prospectively I hope, in webspace. So let
> me know if that strikes any chords, lost or otherwise.
> If so, I will try to elaborate a little further.
Jon,
Yes, this idea has been familiar to me since about 1977 when I was
building TTL and CMOS circuits for robots in high school (and no,
I wasn't a complete nerd. The rest of the time I was handing around
with the cute girls in the theatre department). I.e., that you could
use NAND gates to build anything else. TTL was probably my first
full-on experience with actually using logic in some practical
application.
And when you put it that way, the full-circle *whack* on the side of
the head effect happens (but you can't hear it over email). So please
go on, I'm curious as to how this fits in.
Murray
PS. Going offline in about ten minutes.
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Murray Altheim http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/murray/
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