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ONT RE: Data Models, Ontologies, Logic




Dear Jim,

The best definition I know of "data model" is "the structure and
meaning of data". This is some distance from the ones you offer
below. See below for specific comments.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Farrugia [mailto:jim@spatial.maine.edu]
> Sent: 28 May 2002 19:12
> To: Jon Awbrey
> Cc: Ontology; West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE; sowa@bestweb.net; Jim
> Farrugia
> Subject: Re: Data Models, Ontologies, Logic
> 
> 
> Jon and Matthew,
> 
> A few comments below. I hope this is complementary to a message
> John Sowa sent to the SUO list over the weekend, which discussed
> the notions of data models and ontologies.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> JA - Jon Awbrey
> > JF = Jim Farrugia
> > MW = Matthew West
> > 
> > MW: Data Model, a structure of types and relations against
> >     which instances of the types and relations can be stored.
> >     Definitions of the types and relations are in natural language.
> >     Some constraints are defined, usually in terms of the 
> cardinality
> >     of relationships.
> 
> >JA:  I am not comfortable with the term "data model",
> >     and I would tend to shy away from it due to all
> >     of the confusion that we already have about the
> >     polysemantic word "model", but maybe I will get
> >     used to it over time.
> > 
> >     There are all sorts of names for "what you do to define
> >     a dataset before you get down to putting data into it",
> >     and if that is roughly what you are talking about, then
> >     I think I know what you mean.  I used to use a variety
> >     of different names for this, depending on the software
> >     of the moment, but they all seemed to cluster about
> >     words like "scheme", "specification", "structure".
> > 
> >     Is that anything like what you mean by "data model"?
> >     I will stop to see if we are on the same page here,
> >     and then we can back up or progress from there.
> 
> 
> 
> JF:   Here is one definition, which may not be perfect, but which may
>       help us get on the same page.  The phrase "data model" is widely
>       used; I think it's something to get used to.
> 
> 
>       
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>       
>       "A data model is an abstract, self-contained, logical definition
>       of the objects, operators, and so forth, that together 
> constitute
>       the abstract machine with which users interact. The 
> objects allow
>       us to model the structure of the data. The operators 
> allow us to model
>       its behavior."
> 
> 
>       Source: An Introduction to Database Systems, Seventh Edition
>               by C. J. Date.  Addison Wesley Longmann, 2000, p. 14.

MW: This seems to be how data is represented and processed, rather than
anything to do with a data model (aka entity-relationship model).
> 
> 
>       
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> ---------
>       
> 
> JF:   The above may make more sense after reading the 
> following, which 
>       I've reformatted slightly:
> 
>       
> 
>       
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 
> 
>       "Users--who may be people as well as programs--interact with a 
>       database using the interface it provides. The 
> abstraction provided by 
>       the interface is called the logical level of the 
> database. Data is 
>       represented here using a data model. 
> 
>       Intuitively, a data model provides a uniform way to 
> organize and 
>       manipulate data. Examples of data models are the relational, 
>       hierarchical, network, entity-relationship, and object-oriented 
>       models. 
> 
>       By far the most popular remains the relational model, 
> in which data 
>       is presented as a set of tables. Each table is 
> identified by a name; 
>       columns also have names, called attributes. 

MW: Well this confirms my suspicions above. Just another use of the
term, and not the one used by people who design databases.
> 
>       The structure of the tables in a relational database, 
> given by their 
>       names and attributes, is referred to as the database 
> schema. The 
>       schema provides the ``skeleton'' of the database, 
> without its data. 

MW: Now this schema is what we would call a physical data model
(generally just "data model" implies "logical data model"). The
logical data model is developed first, and then mapped onto/into
a physical data model, that will depend on the processing in the
application as well as the information requirements.
> 
>       The content of each table at any given time is a set of 
> tuples -- 
>       a relation. 
> 
>       The relations contained by the tables form an instance of the 
>       database. 
> 
>       Data manipulation capabilities provided at the logical 
> level include 
>       a query language (used to extract information from the 
> database) and 
>       an update language (used to modify the content of the 
> database). 
>      
>       A relational database schema is essentially a 
> first-order vocabulary 
>       without function symbols or constants. 
> 
>       A database instance can be viewed as a finite 
> relational structure 
>       providing a finite interpretation for the vocabulary. 
> 
>       This analogy is the basis for the connection between 
> databases and 
>       finite-model theory. "
> 
> 
>       author = "V. Vianu",
>       title = "Databases and finite-model theory",
>       text = "V. Vianu. Databases and finite-model theory. In 
> N. Immerman 
>       and P. Kolaitis, editors, DIMACS Series in Discrete 
> Mathematics and 
>       Theoretical Computer Science, vol. 31, pages 97-- 148. American 
>       Mathematical Society, 1997.", year = "1997",
>       url = "citeseer.nj.nec.com/5334.html"
>       
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> ---------
> 
> 
> JF:   I agree with Jon's comments in another posting that 
> Matthew's use
>       of the terms "Taxonomy" and "Thesaurus" are [probably] 
> not standard.
> 
>       But I think that on the notion of "data model" Matthew 
> is rather on
>       target, especially if the two quoted passages above can 
> be taken as
>       reliable guides to that notion.
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
>