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ONT Re: Extension x Comprehension = Information




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"One of us cannot be wrong."  ~~ Leonard Cohen

JD = Jean-Luc Delatre
JA = Jon Awbrey

JD: | this statement is mine too, you way of quoting is confusing
    V
JD: It is not so much "misunderstandings" than not
    having the same goals, I already said that:

JD: May be I shall not keep contradicting you on Peirce because
    neither of us will get much profit out of it, given that we
    don't have the same goals.

Yes, that was a lapse of attention.
My indexing strategy is write new
comments unindented and to indent
old content, hopefully identified
with the initials of the source.
This technique developed during
a time when folks in many of my
discussion groups used to stack
meta-commentary 7 or 8 levels
deep.  Now that was confusing.

JA: That statement itself betrays of host of misunderstandings,
    most of which I must pass by in hopes of finding something
    that can be addressed in a satisfactory way at this time.
    Your assumption that you know of my goals at this point
    is one for which I can find no evidence in what you say.

JA: There are goals and there are subgoals, long-term and short-term.
    This is what I said to you in reply to this question about goals:

JA: My present goal is arriving at good theories of intelligent systems
    and building software that will help us do inquiry in the real world.
    I started out in math, physics, took a detour through philosophy and
    psych, came back to math and statistics, took another detour through
    cog and quant psych, back to math, then took up computing because of
    needing to build a theorem prover to help with some of the questions
    in math that I really just had to know the answer to, and continued
    that project into my current systems engineering work.  The point is,
    I did not start as a classical or 19th century scholar, but only got
    forced to return to these old sources by a kind of backtrack algorithm
    that I was pursuing, when I had to diagnose why current hypotheses and
    methods appeared to be failing to do what they were supposed to do.

JD: Sorry Jon, but I can assure you that either:
 
JD: - My goals are not your goals whatever those may be.
    - You are nuts.
    - I am nuts.
 
JD: This not being an exclusive OR ...

JD: I don't see any reason to keep arguing.
 
JD: Bye.

e-dios ...

jon

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