Re: ONT Re: Inquiry Into Inquiry
From: "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
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> Seth Russell wrote:
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> > From: "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
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> > > HP: There is nothing to lament but lament itself.
> > > Creating machine tools to support the intellect
> > > is an aim worthy of discussion. Where in the
> > > course of inquiry, using any epistemic diagram
> > > you choose, do you feel the inquiring mind needs
> > > the most help? Or is it more modest to ask where
> > > we could expect technically plausible software
> > > (and hardware) to help the most?
> > >
> > > Ah, where to begin!? Being there is so much to do,
> > > and we cannot do otherwise than to start as we are,
> > > it may be the case that we can't do better than to
> > > let all pick their own eigenvectors as the optimal
> > > direction for them severally to go -- and yet that
> > > incurs the risk of chaos if there be no other form
> > > of community among them. Something I worry about.
> >
> > Why not assume the community as prior. In other words,
> > find communities that are already interacting and make
> > automated tools to help them. That way your worry
> > goes away ... right?
> >
> > Seth Russell
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> You're new at this, aren'tya?
Nope, I actually consider it my life work :) ... i call it finding a needel
in a haystack.
> Have you never seen the resistance that a community
> will exhibit against moving in the direction of its
> e-spouted aim? Yes, I'm sure you have seen it, but
> acknowledging the pattern of it is another question.
> Here's a hint:
> http://www.songfta.com/songs/ghe-ssa.html
Sorry your response is a bit too cryptic for me to grok your intented
meaning. But I would bet that you harbor assumptions about my meaning that
are erronious.
One does not impose any direction (even its e-spouted one) on a community by
providing it tools. In fact such orgazitional tools can be developed
exteranlly to the actual communitie's endevours. As they become effective
tools, the community member will use them else they will find themselves at
a disadvantage within their own community. For example: suppose that I
were to read the entire corpus of the Generic Ontology Group archives into
an indexer, automatically isolate clusters of concepts using SOM and LSI and
provide a mechinism for people to retireve documents from those clusters. I
would call such a tool AI in the sense of (Amplyfying Intelligence); and I
rather suspect that the members of this group would find no problem with
contibuting energy to sophisticating the vocabulary\ontology used in the
indexing process.
Seth Russell