Re: [Arisbe] SUO: What the hell was CSP talking about?
Joe Randell wrote,
At 09:53 05/05/2002 -0500, vous avez écrit:
> I would just add that Peirce would have .....
>I think, in any case, it is clear from his early ambitions that are
>expressed frequently in Volume 1 of the new chronological edition that the
>import of the phrase "all thought is in signs" is to locate thought in the
>observable signs themselves -- such as, say, the signs on the screen right
>now (if you are reading this from the screen) -- as a relational property
>thereof, rather than thinking of signs as taking on sign-value because a
>mind somehow infuses them with meaning from its own "inner" resources.
>
>Joe Ransdell
>ransdell@door.net
>
I am very happy to read this because the question that I always settled
about Peirce is:
Is it possible to caracterize observable criteria so that I can deduce the
type of sign with which I have to deal ?
Indeed, one can have the impression - at least from the outside - that the
characterization of the type of sign is intuitive, infuse, or still
theological.
I indeed say this but nevertheless I find the approach of Peirce very
interesting, otherwise I shall not be here.
My opinion is that a formal approach of the sign, compatible with the
human cognitive thought, have to be elaborated from observable criteria. It
is only at this price that Peirce approach has to be very pertinent and
useful for the different disciplines in the future.
One can be not O.K. on theoretical approaches. But every one could
discuss upon data beyond her or his theoretical believes.
A major problem is to differentiate representations stored in memory and
representations which occurs in the cognitive task (if they are not solving
a problem human beings do always something) by means of a medium
(language, or others: drawing, graph, gestures, perception...).
I have already worked on drawing and on language. Always I have encountered
this problem.
Moreover I like to say that I completely agree with a formal and logical
approach, as soon as it is not in contradictiion with human cognitive
functioning. I think that it could enlighten cognitive researches.
Regards
Josiane
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Josiane Caron-Pargue
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