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RE: SUO: RE: Re: More KIF-ified Ontology Content




>Dear Matthew,
>	.		Thanks for this explanation. I certainly agree about
>the restrictions with 3D models
>
>	.	However, I still don't understand why relations do not also
>have a time dimension. For example, what about two beings which have
>friendly relations at some periods and hostile ones at other times?

In the 3d (actually 3.5d would be a better way to put it) ontology 
one might write
(Friendly A B t1) and (not (Friendly  A B t2))
or maybe
(Holds (Friendly A B) t1) and (not (Holds (Friendly A B) t2)).
In the 4d ontology one distinguishes the 'parts' of each person at 
the relevant times - thinking of people, like everything else in this 
ontology, as extended through time and so having 'temporal slices' - 
and then would write something like:
(Friendly A@t1  B@t1) and (not (Friendly A@t2 B@t2)
where X@Y means the temporal Y-slice of the thing X.  The relations 
are now timeless (they don't have a temporal parameter and they don't 
hold at one time but not at another), but the things themselves are 
temporally indexed.  For more details of the various possibilities, 
take a look a the discussion in 
http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/users/phayes/TimeCatalog1.ps
The advantages of this framework can be best appreciated by tryi ng 
to use it to axiomatize things like machinery and liquid flow. For 
example, it gives one the ability to talk about the temporal 'shapes' 
of various actions, and distinguish velocities from accelerations, 
etc.. The disadvantages are more subtle, and include the fact that it 
is just as easy to write things like
(Friendly A@t1 B@t2)
which are at best odd and at worst meaningless. CYC uses a basic 
temporal framework of this sort, and it enriches it with a lot of 
relational categories which are designed to rule out oddities like 
this, such as 'isotemporal' relations which are required to only hold 
between things which exist during the same time interval. There are 
other complications as well concerned for example with concepts which 
intrinsically involve certain kinds of change, such as divorce. (If 
marriage is isotemporal, then the death of a spouse ends the 
marriage, but it doesnt make the surviving spouse a divorcee.)

Pat Hayes

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