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Re: SUO: Re: More Standard Arguments




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>pat hayes wrote:
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> > > Dear Pat,
> > >
> > > I agree with the issues you raise, but would suggest a slightly
> > > alternative alternative solution (which is what I thought your
> > > original response to Chris P was saying).  That is that we allow
> > > the different viewpoints, but aim to understand the relationship
> > > between them.
> >
> > Well, I agree.  But that is explicitly not the goal of the SUO (or
> > indeed anything that could possible start with the word 'standard').
> > To allow the different viewpoints is to allow a variety of different,
> > incompatible, ontologies, not to impose a standard.
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>I do not get this contradiction you see between "plural" and "standard" --
>I feel like I am back in some old philosophy class where the Big Question
>of the day is <pick you favorite notion> and ask "Is it One or Many?"
>When I decide to go to a restaurant, first I must choose what kind of
>fare I want to consume, and when I get there they give me menu with
>the standard fare listed on it, but it is not customary for everyone
>to be compelled to choose the same thing.  Will it not ever be thus,
>that choice and diversity are as interleaved as any other well-seasoned
>and well-tossed salad?
>
>Buono appetito !
>
>Jon Awbrey
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An excellent metaphor, Jon. Let me run with it a little. The question 
is, whether the SUO is going to be something like a food hall, where 
almost any kind of cuisine can be had, provided that one is willing 
to walk around and find the food one wants; or if it will in fact be 
a particular kind of restaurant. If you go to a Thai restaurant or an 
Irish pub diner you will get menus in either case, but you had better 
not expect to be able to eat Beef and Cabbage with Pad Thai. I think 
the SUO dream is something like a kind of general-purpose Standard 
Upper restaurant, where one can assemble egg drop soup, steak & 
kidney pudding,  breakfast fries or baked alaska just by choosing the 
right ingredients from a kind of universal menu. My point is that you 
are always going to need cooks, and that even the best cook can't 
boil fried eggs.

Pat

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