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Re: D1. Separate computer science ontology from philosophical ontology



Avril, Rob, and Philippe,

AS> Descartes wanted to have something that is completely sure,
 > something where he could totally rely on.

I certainly don't object to assuming that I exist.  But what I
don't like is Descartes's insincerity.  Never for an instant
did he ever doubt that he existed, and his so called "proof"
is a useless piece of sophistry.  His existence is far more
reliable than his foolish attempt to prove it.  I agree with
Peirce and Whitehead that Descartes led western philosophy
on a 300 year wild goose chase.

AS> I gather that (correct me if I'm wrong) because John is
 > against pursuing anything like PPO, he will not even agree
 > that something exists.

I am certainly not against pursuing philosophy, and I agree
that a lot of things exist, including you, me, and most of the
people we know.  (I said "most" because I don't want to exclude
the possibility that some of us may have imaginary friends.)

RF> A basis in reason, doubting all dogma, was Descartes greatest
 > philosophical contribution, and clearly a great advance over
 > what went before for many purposes.

Descartes was not doubting "dogma".  He was a fraud:

  1. He started by pretending to doubt the undoubtable.

  2. He ended with the dogma that God really does exist.

I have no quarrel with people who either do or do not
believe in God.  But I don't like frauds.

John