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Re: The world may fundamentally be inexplicable



William,
 
The universe or reality is the greatest unboundeded but single entity; the sum, totality and aggregation of things diversified into a multitude of collections of subworlds with their specific constraints and boundaries; and all governed by the same fundamental laws. Accordingly, the logic of reality is ultimately one, there can not be many logics of the things. Although you can allow many personal perspectives, and particular truths, special things and meanings, the global logic of reality (what i call UFO) is single universal consistent system relied on few ontological classes [as an example, see USECS, the lattice of entity classes]. 
 
The crucial fact that the universe (as a whole and unity) consists of many worlds is the backbone of modern cosmology. This truth is as old as the following ontological statements:
The universe  consists of many worlds. There is an infinite number of worlds of different sizes, spaced at different distances from each other, inhabited or noninhabited. In some worlds there is no Sun and Moon, in others they are larger than in our world, and in others more numerous. In some parts there are more worlds, in others fewer; in some parts they are arising (growing), in others failing (decreasing or destroying by collision with one another). There are some
worlds devoid of living creatures or plants or any moisture.
This told with the same great mind who predicted that all matter is made up of various indivisible elements, atoms, distinguished by size, shape, and mass. 
 
All good wishes,
 
Azamat Abdoullaev
http://www.eis.com.cy  
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: The world may fundamentally be inexplicable

Azamat,

 

I think John’s earlier point in this thread may have gotten obscured in the subsequent discussion – namely that our best current physical theories cannot rule out the possibility that the universe as a whole – including all its laws, implicit hierarchies of being, what have you – may be a fundamentally arbitrary phenomenon. One of the primary embarrassments of string theory is its inability to constrain the number of alternative universes that can be generated from its core premises, and string theory is hardly alone in this (see Lisa Randal’s recent Warped Passages)..

 

Given a plethora of universes each with its own physical laws, is it so much of a stretch to posit a plethora of logics? (Think of that moment in Hofstadter’s Goedel, Escher, Bach, where the “Subjunc-TV” is tuned to a universe in which 13 is not a prime number.) Roger Brown may have been right after all when he characterized all higher-level ontologies as “achievements of the imagination” (“How Shall a Thing be Called?” Psychological Review, 1958, 65, 14-21).

 

Wit best wishes to all for a Happy New Year,

Bill

 

Bill DeSmedt

Principal Knowledge Engineer

Concurrent Technologies Corporation

desmedtw@ctc.com

(814) 269-2761


From: standard-upper-ontology@IEEE.ORG [mailto:standard-upper-ontology@IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Azamat
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:31 AM
To: brandon@COMP.LEEDS.AC.UK; standard-upper-ontology@IEEE.ORG; cg@CS.UAH.EDU
Subject: Re: The world may fundamentally be inexplicable

 

Right you are, Brandon,

 

This is another case of the peculiarity of the human mind, so gladenning John: if you don't see/follow something, then it doesn't exist, or 'fundamentally inexplicable', while this is just accidentally unaccountable, and most depends on the quality of our theories.

 

The universe is a deep dark secret, mysterious and mystifying to human minds. And the fundamental challenge to the human mind is to provide a universal language that explains in noncryprical terms how this unbounded environment is made of, what populates it, how it changes, how its basic constituents related, etc. And this is all the legal responsibility of real ontology. 

 

The main reason why Mother-Nature endowed us, human species, with intelligence is

to Know Ourselves through Knowing Reality and to Know Reality through Knowing Ourselves.

 

All good wishes,

Azamat

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brandon Bennett" <brandon@COMP.LEEDS.AC.UK>

To: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@BESTWEB.NET>

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: The world may fundamentally be inexplicable

 

> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 13:38 -0500, John F. Sowa wrote:
>
>> Summary:  Forget the elusive search for an ultimate unified
>> ontology because (a) it might not exist, (b) even if it
>> did exist, it's not likely to be found for at least another
>> century or so,
>
> Well it certainly won't be found if nobody even wants to look
> for it.
> Just because something is very difficult doesn't mean it is not
> worth trying.
>
> Happy New Year
> Brandon
>
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