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Re: Whole and Parts



Jack,

In general, I like the idea of using category theory.
But I have some doubts about that particular approach:

 > I may have missed it: did anyone mention Barry Smith's
 > riff on mereotopology
 > http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith/articles/mereotopology.htm
 > pointed to me by Murray Altheim?
 >
 > I like the blending of mereology and category-theoretic
 > thinking. What do others think?

There are two basic problems with that approach:

  1. It is an attempt to define parts and wholes in a
     purely extensional way.  And as Peirce's list of
     many different kinds illustrates, the most serious
     issues are modal, intentional, and intensional
     (with both an S and a T).

  2. Barry is trying to characterize boundaries as pure
     geometrical surfaces that have no thickness, but every
     boundary in the physical world has a definite thickness.
     He is pushing formalism for the sake of formalism when
     it has no correspondence to either the physical world
     or the way that people think about the world.

As examples of the first point, I would refer to Peirce's
discussion of the many different ways of thinking about
wholes and parts.  Peirce was talking about sign relations,
which are all fundamentally triadic.

As for the second point, if you want to get into the way
the world is independently of any human, you are talking
about physics, and then you have to deal with physical
reality, which has no such thing as sharp boundaries and
infinitely thin surfaces.

I discuss some of these issues in my paper on Signs,
Processes, and Language Games (see excerpts below).
I also discuss a "debate" in which Barry Smith and
John Searle talked past one another.  Smith was trying
to apply his dyadic relations, but Searle said that
Smith kept missing the point:
 
http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith/articles/dksearle.htm
The Construction of Social Reality: An Exchange

I don't fully agree with Searle, but at least Searle
recognizes the need for triads in order to do anything
at all in analyzing and characterizing human social
relationships.  You just can't do it with dyads.

John
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Source:  http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/signproc.htm
          Signs, Processes, and Language Games

[From Section 2]

One example is Barry Smith (1995, 1998, 1999, 2001), who has struggled 
to eliminate mental notions by defining all aspects of human life in 
terms of mereological sums of physical objects and processes. His 
resulting ontology has two basic categories, continuants (physical 
objects) and occurrents (processes), which can be combined by mereology 
to form complex entities called physical-behavioral units and social 
objects:

     * Smith considers Aristotle's early substance-property-accident 
view as "common sense" and accepts Strawson's claim that objects are 
ontologically prior to processes, because "occurrents require a support 
from continuants in order to exist." But as Rescher observed, one could 
with greater justification say that continuants are existentially 
dependent on the occurrents that generate them and maintain the 
conditions necessary for them to continue.

     * Examples of physical-behavioral units include "Wendy's Friday 
afternoon class, Jim's meeting with his teacher, your Thursday lunch, 
Frank's early morning swim." These units are similar to Barwise and 
Perry's situations, but Smith prefers the hyphenated adjective because 
it makes them sound more "observable" and therefore more "objective."

     * Examples of social objects include legal entities such as 
"juries, courts, contracts, lawsuits", cultural entities such as "works 
of music and literature", and human social groups such as "families and 
tribes, nations and empires, but also orchestras and chess clubs, 
battalions and football teams, as well as those more or less short-lived 
social groupings, which arise when strangers are formally introduced, or 
pair up on the dance floor." To ensure that these entities are purely 
physical, Smith defines them as mereological sums of rather disparate 
conglomerations. A contract, for example, includes not only the signed 
piece of paper, but also the people who signed it, the act of signing, 
and all the objects and processes involved in fulfilling the contract 
throughout its duration. The only things missing from Smith's definition 
are the intentions of the people who signed the contract and carry out 
its provisions.

Although Smith claims objectivity for his definitions, they violate the 
requirements for an effective operational test. His social objects, for 
example, include so many physical entities scattered over long intervals 
of time that itemizing them on paper is difficult and observing them in 
action is impossible. When arguing about a contract in a court of law, 
lawyers do not consult the mereological sum of physical actions, but the 
propositions stated on paper or uttered by witnesses. In every one of 
Smith's examples of social objects, the fundamental requirement that 
determines the nature and extent of the physical entities involved is 
some sign or structure of signs that may be written in symbols, uttered 
by some humans, or embodied in some artifact. In effect, the 
mereological sum of physical entities involved in any social object is 
"dependent" on the propositions entailed by the constitutive signs of 
that social object. A sounder formalization of Smith's approach should 
be based on the semiotic processes that involve the people (or other 
animals) who create the social objects, use them, and live with them and 
in them. As Carnap recognized, the "construction" of the sign relation 
from physical objects "is more difficult than any of the other relations 
which we have hitherto undertaken." An easier and more fundamental 
approach is to start with signs as the prerequisites for any social 
entity and to follow the signs to determine what other entities may be 
involved.

[From Section 4]

Even more recently, Barry Smith and John Searle debated some issues, or 
rather talked past one another about some topics, which could have been 
clarified by an application Peirce's trichotomy (Smith & Searle 2001). 
Smith began with a criticism of Searle's book _The Construction of 
Social Reality_, which he tried to interpret in terms of his own 
ontology of social objects. Searle replied

    I think in the end he makes many useful points, but I also
    believe that he misunderstands me in certain very profound
    ways. I believe his misunderstandings derive from the fact
    that he approaches this topic with a set of concerns that
    are fundamentally different from mine, and in consequence,
    he tends to take my views as attempts to answer his questions
    rather than attempts to answer my questions.

In Peircean terms, Smith was trying to use the dyadic partOf relation of 
mereology to represent fundamentally triadic relations of people, social 
institutions, and their purposes. Searle, however, recognized the need 
for a triadic relation, which he expressed in the pattern X counts as Y 
in context C. This relation gave Searle greater flexibility than Smith's 
dyads, but Smith criticized that flexibility as too loose and imprecise. 
In particular, Smith noted that a context itself is a social object that 
requires some independent definition. Both authors made valid points: 
Searle's book illustrates the power of triadic relations for analyzing 
social institutions, but Smith's criticism shows the need for greater 
precision in distinguishing different kinds of triads. Peirce's 
trichotomy is the key to resolving this dispute:  instead of using a 
single triad, Peirce formulated a metalevel principle for generating 
different triads when applied to different phenomena.

When applied to the modes of existence, Peirce's trichotomy generates 
three fundamental ontological categories, which correspond to Kant's 
triad under Modality:  Possibility, Actuality, and Necessity.