What We Can Learn from Robots ... About Intelligence
BTW, can Professor Minsky at MIT tell us what definition scientifically
inclined and measurement oriented psychologists use for INTELLIGENCE?
Frankly who cares about what he vaguely imagines "common sense" to be? We
are talking science here so let's spell out what we want a robot to do to
be called intelligent. If we take the homo sapiens definition of
intelligence, we might have the proper respect to ask the profession which
has worked assiduously on this problem since the late 1800's.
Presumably Minsky invokes the definition of human intelligence when he
talks about artificial intelligence. How about: human intelligence is
"that which is measured by intelligence tests"?
Indeed does anybody at MIT know what intelligence is?
POC
<http://www.geocities.com/MachinePsychologyDegree>
> Why should homo sapiens set the standard for what constitutes
> intelligence? Why not see if robo sapiens can give us a new standard?
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> Imagine a robot like Hubo or Asimo in an MIT classroom giving lectures on
> electrical engineering with Q-A sessions. Why not try it out if MIT
> really wants to "reinvent teaching and learning" as Dean Magnanti says?
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> We might learn a new definition of intelligence.
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> POC
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> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 thirtygrand@myway.com wrote:
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>> On a crisp october day last year, Carnegie Mellon University's
>> Robotics Institute http://www.ri.cmu.edu/ kicked off its 25th-
>> anniversary celebration, as the world's robotics experts came to
>> Pittsburgh to see C-3PO, Shakey the robot, Honda's Asimo, and Astro
>> Boy inducted into the Robot Hall of Fame. The next day saw
>> demonstrations of running, snaking, and bagpipe-playing bots. On the
>> third day, it was Mitsuo Kawato's turn to speak. The lights went
>> down, and the director of the ATR Computational Neuroscience
>> Laboratories http://www.cns.atr.jp/ in Kyoto, Japan, made his way to
>> the stage to the beat of rock music.
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>> Despite such a welcome, Kawato is an outsider here, dismissive of
>> the self-congratulation that creeps into conversations about modern
>> robotics. He begins his presentation by shuffling slowly across the
>> stage, imitating how stiffly and deliberately today's humanoid robots
>> walk. What this suggests, he says, is that scientists don't really
>> understand how the human brain controls the body. If they did, they
>> could re-create the process in a robot. Indeed, Kawato doesn't talk
>> about improving robot vision or navigational controls, as many other
>> speakers at the gala do. Instead, he describes the role of brain
>> regions such as the cerebellum and basal ganglia in the acquisition
>> of motor skills, carefully couching his explanations in terms that
>> roboticists understand.
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>> On Kawato's lapel is a button that reads "I ♥ Robots!" But there
>> is
>> a difference between him and other attendees. Kawato loves robots not
>> because they are cool, but because he believes they can teach him how
>> the human brain works. "Only when we try to reproduce brain functions
>> in artificial machines can we understand the information processing
>> of the brain," he says. It's what he calls "understanding the brain
>> by creating the brain." By programming a robot to reach out and grasp
>> an object, for instance, Kawato hopes to learn the patterns in which
>> electrical signals flow among neurons in the brain to control a human
>> arm.
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>> It's a surprising and controversial idea. Despite the increasing
>> number of humanlike machines, robots and people are nothing alike.
>> The human brain has billions of neurons interconnected in complex
>> ways that no computer program can yet simulate. But Kawato believes
>> that experiments on humanoid robots can, at least, provide
>> simplified models of what certain groups of neurons in the brain are
>> doing. Then, using advanced imaging techniques, he looks at whether
>> brain cells in monkeys and humans accord with the models.
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>> "This is very different from the usual justification for building
>> humanoid robots—that they are economically useful or will help take
>> care of the elderly," says Christopher Atkeson, a robotics expert at
>> Carnegie Mellon. Rather, Kawato's motivation lies in using robots to
>> gain insights into how people think, make decisions, and interact
>> with the world. That information could help doctors design therapies
>> for patients with brain injuries, strokes, and neurological disorders—
>> even cognitive and behavior problems. Seeing what it takes to design
>> a socially interactive robot, for example, might motivate a search
>> for areas in the brain that are switched off in cases of autism.
>> (Neural circuits in the basal ganglia are prime candidates.) A robot
>> arm that becomes unstable when feedback signals are delayed might
>> suggest a new source of tremors in the cerebella of Parkinson's
>> patients.
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>> As a tool for understanding the mind, robots are "extremely
>> valuable," says Antonio Damasio, head of neurology at the University
>> of Iowa http://www.uiowa.edu/ and the author of three books on the
>> brain that have popularized the notion of "embodied
>> intelligence." "Robots can implement and test how processes like
>> movement can occur," he says. By extending these models to develop a
>> broader theory of the mind, Damasio adds, "we'll know more and more
>> about what it takes for, say, human consciousness to operate."
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>> Lost in Translation
>> There's a Japanese proverb that says, "To teach is to learn." Down
>> the hall from Kawato's office at ATR, robot school is in session. In
>> one corner, a researcher teaches the humanoid robot DB, short for
>> Dynamic Brain, to interact with people. Built like a good-sized
>> person, 1.9 meters tall and 80 kilograms, DB also moves like one:
>> it's fast and graceful. The researcher stands in front of the robot,
>> waving around a stuffed dog. DB watches, apparently intently, tilting
>> its head and tracking the toy with its camera eyes. Then it reaches
>> out with a hydraulic arm and pats the dog, a bit clumsily, on the
>> head. A big screen nearby displays what the robot sees, as well as
>> which algorithms it's running.
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>> But this isn't just another robot showing off its humanlike skills.
>> Gordon Cheng, head of the humanoid robotics group at ATR, thinks of
>> DB as an experimental subject that eats electricity and bleeds
>> hydraulic fluid. Working with robots, says Cheng, teaches "how the
>> pieces fit together to build a rich system" that can emulate the
>> human brain and body.
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>> To control DB's arm, for instance, software computes what commands
>> will produce the right sequence of joint movements to achieve a
>> certain goal. Kawato and Cheng believe a similar process happens in
>> the human brain: they think we use "internal models" to calculate
>> relationships between neural signals and the resulting body
>> movements. For example, when you're about to pick up a cup, neurons
>> in your brain access internal models to figure out what series of
>> signals to send to your shoulder, elbow, and wrist. It's as if your
>> brain were carrying out calculations every time you drink your coffee.
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>> It is a system design that might seem intuitive to a roboticist, but
>> for years most neuroscientists found it ridiculous. How, they asked,
>> could neurons perform such complex computations? They believed the
>> command signals from the brain were much simpler, and that muscles
>> and reflexes—not some abstract model—largely explained motor
>> behaviors. But over the last decade, Kawato has offered strong
>> evidence to the contrary, arguing that internal models are in fact
>> necessary for eye and arm movements and may even be important for
>> interactions with people and with objects in the world.
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>> In practice, however, it's difficult to draw direct connections
>> between robots and humans. To do so would require the robots and
>> their algorithms to mirror human physiology and neurology as closely
>> as possible. Yet DB's brain doesn't even reside in its head,
>> occupying several racks of computers, and a different scientist is
>> needed to fire up each of the robot's many behaviors, such as
>> reaching or juggling. How DB carries out a task may or may not have
>> much to do with how a human brain operates. To find out, Kawato's
>> team is studying how people learn to solve problems.
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>> In experiments conducted in Kawato's lab, subjects lie in a magnetic-
>> resonance imaging machine and learn to use an unfamiliar tool, a
>> modified computer mouse, to follow a moving target on a screen.
>> Certain areas in the cerebellum light up, indicating increased blood
>> flow in certain clusters of neurons. The researchers believe these
>> neurons represent an internal model of the coordinated actions
>> required for using the tool—much like the ones programmed into DB.
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>> By combining magnetic-resonance imaging, which offers millimeter-
>> level resolution, with electrical and magnetic recording techniques,
>> which resolve brain activity down to milliseconds, Kawato's group
>> hopes to understand more of the details of what is happening among
>> these neurons. It's what Kawato calls "mind decoding"—reading out a
>> person's intent based solely on neural signal patterns. If
>> successful, it would be a breakthrough in understanding how the mind
>> works.
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>> Translating the brain's messages into language that a robot can
>> understand is a step toward realizing a long-term technological
>> ambition: a remote "brain-machine interface" that lets a user
>> participate in events occurring thousands of kilometers away. A
>> helmet could monitor a person's brain activity and report it, over
>> the Internet, to a remote humanoid robot; in nearly real time, the
>> person's actions could be replicated by a digital double. To build
>> the system, researchers will need to look in the brain for specific
>> signals, translate them, transmit the data wirelessly without large
>> delays, and use them to control a device on the other end. The puzzle
>> is far from complete, but Kawato's mix of neuroscience and robotics
>> could at least snap the first few pieces into place.
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>> Robots 'R' Us
>> Using robots to understand the human brain could also produce more
>> autonomous robots. That may not be saying much. MIT artificial-
>> intelligence pioneer Marvin Minsky says, "Robots today seem uniformly
>> stupid, unable to solve even simple, commonsense problems." The most
>> successful product from iRobot in Burlington, MA, a leading robotics
>> company, is a vacuum cleaner. Industrial robots paint cars and build
>> microchips but can't do anything they're not programmed to do. But
>> there is increasing interest, especially in Japan and Europe, in
>> developing new humanoid robots using insights from neuroscience.
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>> That development has already begun in Kawato's lab. As part of a
>> five-year, $8 million project, DB is getting an overhaul*, based in
>> part on what Kawato has learned from probing the human brain. The new
>> robot—designed, like DB, by Sarcos of Salt Lake City, UT—will be more
>> humanlike in its anatomy, brain architecture, power requirements, and
>> strength. It will have powerful legs that will allow it to walk and
>> run. (By contrast, the current DB can't walk.) Once the new bot is
>> operational in late 2005, one of its first uses will be as a test
>> platform for studying gait disorders and falls among elderly people.
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>> *Click here to see the brain and
>> body of "DB2" under construction.
>> http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/01/issue/flash_robots.asp
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>> Kawato is also laying the foundation for a grander collaboration
>> between robotics and neuroscience. Together with Sony and Honda, he
>> is lobbying the Japanese government to help fund a worldwide project
>> to build a humanoid robot that would have the intelligence and
>> capabilities of a five-year-old child. In addition to the
>> technological payoff, says Kawato, the benefits to neuroscience would
>> be immense, though he believes it will take upwards of $500 million a
>> year for 30 years to make it happen.
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>> The evolution of robots into something more humanlike is probably
>> inevitable. Experts agree there is nothing magical about how the
>> brain works, nothing that is too inherently complex to figure out and
>> copy. As Kawato is learning in his lab, the ultimate value in closing
>> the gap between humans and machines might lie in what new generations
>> of robots can teach us about ourselves.
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>> OCW: REINVENTING TEACHING AND LEARNING WITH A TEACHING-LEARNING MACHINE
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>> OCW, in collaboration with Microsoft in Project I-Campus
>> "...aspires to reinvent teaching and learning for the 21st.
>> century research university" says MIT Dean of Engineering
>> Thomas L. Magnanti. How far might we go with the OCW Teaching-Learning
>> Machine?
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