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My apologies, I haven't time to follow the thread right now, alas for deadlines. But before I forget there's a link I'd like to drop in, a proposal for a common logic language LBase for specifying the semantics of other Semantic Web languages,there may be a tie-in with the common languages John's been talking about: http://www.w3.org/TR/lbase/ Hoping to catch up soon... Cheers, Danny.