SUO: Topic :> Motion Of Topics
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MOT 5. <JA, 10 Dec 2003, 07>
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JA = Jon Awbrey
JS = Jim Schoening
Jim Schoening has introduced an interesting Topic,
concerning the "Motion Of Topics" (MOT, a Topic to
the careful examination of which I hope to find the
opportunity of devoting some free time in the future.
Toward a more coherent organization of Topics,
I will collate here under a collective change
of topical coordinates the following sequence
of exchanges that began off-list and occurred
off-topic in so far as their ostensible Topic:
In reference to:
Topic :> System [~> MOT 1]. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg12071.html
JS wrote off-list (Offense Number 1, since I started counting) to JA:
JS: This topic has been moved to the SUO-Policies list.
Could you post your contributions there. Thanks.
JA replied here:
Topic :> System [~> MOT 2]. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg12076.html
In particular:
JA: Here is a perfect example of what I was just talking about.
Someone who is not paying attention to an ongoing discussion
between several other members of the list, enough to know what
is even being talked about, and with no attempt to enter the
discussion in order to find out what is being talked about,
arrogates to himself the power and the privilege of trying
to break up the discussion and direct it to another location.
Scratch what I said about freedom of assembly till the end of
the year.
JA: The questions are:
JA: 1. Why does he think he has the right to do that?
JA: 2. Why do we continue to tolerate him doing that?
JA: These are not rhetorical questions.
A failure to address them is one
of the reasons that this Group
is going in circles.
JS responded here:
Topic :> Movement Of Topic [~> MOT 3]. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg12080.html
In substance:
JS: The Chair believes this line of postings originated from
Matthew West's project on developing a methodology for
advancing standards documents.
JS: If not, would the member please explain its
relationship to the work of this group.
JS: If so, that project and other policy-related topics has been moved
to the SUO-Policies list, an open forum, and the member is directed
to cease posting this line of messages to this list, but is welcomed
to post them to the SUO-Policies list and occasionally post summaries
back to this list.
JA replied here:
Topic :> Movement Of Topic [~> MOT 4]. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg12083.html
In particular:
JA: This Member of the SUO Group is currently operating
under contract with the Chair to limit his postings
to the Main SUO list to ten (10) per diem for the
period of 2 Dec 2003 to 31 Dec 2003, under the
condition that there be no other restrictions
imposed on these postings.
JA: This offer was made here: http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11921.html
JA: In particular:
JA: | Here is what I will do.
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| Effective tomorrow, for the month of December, I will "freely" (hah!)
| limit my posting to a reasonable number set by you, personally.
| I suggest 10 per day, but will negotiate with you only.
| They will, however, be totally unrestricted as to
| having to demonstrate relevance to anyone else's
| judgment or lack thereof.
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| I do this in hopes that the Group will one day return
| to sanity, and one day live up to your imagination.
|
| Let me know ...
JA: This offer was accepted here: http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11957.html
JA: In particular:
JS: | I accepted Jon's offer of 10 messages per day to stop the bickering.
JA: Please honor this agreement.
JA: For your information, the member in question has set out the following
provisional distribution and schedule of work for his employment of the
agreed upon posting permits, hereafter known as "tickets" or "tokens":
JA: One (1) token per diem. Admin, Amity, Incidental,
Miscellaneous, Procedural Topics.
JA: Nine (9) tokens per diem. Standard Upper Ontology
Scope And Purpose Related Topics.
JA: In view of the fact that I have now used two (2) tokens today
on your Admin Issues, I will not be able to discuss this matter
further until Friday, 12 Dec 2003.
JA: If you do find a way to make this matter relevant to the SUO PAR,
I will consider discussing it, subject to the agreed limitations,
under the appropriate Substantive heading.
That should bring everybody up to date in the new coordinate frame.
Jon Awbrey
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