Re: SUO: Call For The Chair's Resignation
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SUO WG,
Both Matthew and I asked Jim for clarification
as to what he intended to do with what is now
apparently his own personal SUO Propaganda Line.
Looking back, we probably should have insisted
on a clause that the SUO-STAT list not be used
for personal vendettas, but some days you just
can't be paranoid enough, no matter how much
practice you get.
Motion 1. I move that the SUO-STAT list be abolished immediately.
Motion 2. I move that there shall be no official announcements
issued under the name of the SUO WG that do not have
the full approval of the SUO Working Group.
Jon Awbrey
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> SUO: Fw: Re: Restructuring SUO lists
> To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> Subject: SUO: Fw: Re: Restructuring SUO lists
> From: jim.s3@juno.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:13:50 -0400
> Reply-To: jim.s3@juno.com
> Sender: owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org
>
> Matt,
> I'll post formal things like motions, ballots, and ballot results.
> I'll also post important administrative announcements. If members
> feel a particular message should be posted, they'll forward it to
> me and I'll decide.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:00:52 +0100 "West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE"
> <matthew.west@shell.com> writes:
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > Do I take it you will select postings from the SUO list
> > to post to this new list (since you are moderating it)?
> > Otherwise how would we decide what is "status" material.
> >
> >
> > Matthew West
> > Principal Consultant
> > Shell Information Technology International Limited
> > Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom
> >
> > Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Other Tel: +44 7796 336538
> > Email: matthew.west@shell.com
> > Internet: http://www.shell.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jim.s3@juno.com [mailto:jim.s3@juno.com]
> > > Sent: 27 August 2003 19:24
> > > To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> > > Subject: SUO: Restructuring SUO lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I propose the following changes to the SUO lists.
> > >
> > > 1. Drop the SUO-KIF and SUO-CE lists, since they have been dorment
> > for
> > > some time, and I gets tons of spam from them. We can keep
> > > the archives.
> > >
> > > 2. Keep the Standard-Upper-Ontology list as the main list,
> > > but continue
> > > to remind members to only post messages that relate to the work of
> > the
> > > group. Please take this as a reminder.
> > >
> > > 3. Keep the Ontology list for general ontology discussions.
> > >
> > > 4. Create a new list entitled SUO-WG-STATUS (moderated by the
> > > Chair) for
> > > participants who want to keep abreast of significant WG
> > activities
> > > without subscribing to the Standard-Upper-Ontology list.
> > >
> > > Existing lists and archives can be found on the our web site at
> > > http://suo.ieee.org.
> > >
> > > Jim Schoening
>
Jon Awbrey wrote:
>
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> SUO WG,
>
> Jim Schoening has grossly abused the announced purpose of
> the SUO Status List as it was described earlier this year.
> I move that he resign as Chair of the SUO WG immediately,
> that his nomination for the upcoming Chair election be
> nullified, and I nominate Matthew West as Interim Chair
> until the vacancy can be filled by election of the Group.
>
> Jon Awbrey
>
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> Subject:
> SUO-STAT Fw: SUO: Jon Awbrey's Postings
> Date:
> Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:30:19 -0500
> From:
> jim.s3@juno.com
> To:
> SUO-STATUS@ieee.org
>
> The following message was posted to the SUO list on 27 Nov 03:
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jim.s3@juno.com
> To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:02:11 -0500
> Subject: SUO: Jon Awbrey's Postings
>
> SUO WG,
>
> The nature and quantity of Jon Awbrey's postings continue to
> generate complaints. And as in the past, he refuses to work with me to
> arrive at an acceptable solution.
>
> I feel it is time for me to take further action, but I need some
> level of consensus from the group.
>
> Question 1: Is there anyone who feels Jon should be allowed to
> continue with the quantity and nature (as demonstrated over the past
> couple years) of his postings?
>
> Question 2: Does anyone object to me taking the position with
> Jon, "Jon, cooperate with me off-line to resolve the quantity and nature
> of your postings or you will be restricted from posting to the SUO list.
> (But you will still be able to use the Ontology list, or start your own
> list.)"
>
> I'll leave these questions open until at least Tuesday of next week.
>
> Jim Schoening
>
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