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SUO: Re: Standard Upper Ontology Procedures




Jon,

        Receipt of your suggestion is acknowledged.  

        To find out what IEEE can do, email their Help-Desk at
helpdesk@ieee.org or call them at 732-562-5439.

       I can't image making this an open list (where anyone can post
without subscribing), but maybe IEEE filters can keep out the spam.  As
list owner, I get plenty of 'Non-member' posting alerts, so I don't think
we want to allow these messages to get through. 

        As for your request for objections, I don't think anyone will
object to your exploring this avenue.  If you others can develop a viable
proposal, we can then see if the group wants to make the change.
 
Jim


On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:34:58 -0500 Jon Awbrey <jawbrey@att.net> writes:
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> SUOP.  Note 24
> 
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> In: SUOP Outline.  http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd5.html#11584
> Hx: SUOP 22.       http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11868.html
> Hx: SUOP 23.       http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11873.html
> 
> JA = Jon Awbrey
> JS = Jim Schoening
> 
> JS: Are you making a motion?  Do you truly want to put this
>     group through an email ballot to decide if we should look
>     into this subject?  If you want to look into it, seek some
>     other people and look into it.  If it looks viable, package
>     up a proposal, build some consensus, then propose the change
>     in the form of a motion.  You don't need a motion to just look
>     into something.  Motions in an email group take a lot of time
>     and work and should be introduced with great care and only
>     when needed.
> 
> Jim,
> 
> What I would like is attention to and acknowledgement of my 
> suggestion
> for a possible course of collective action that is offered in the 
> hopes
> of ameliorating -- fast, temporary, or otherwise -- an outstanding 
> and
> a longstanding problem that affects our collective ability for 
> working
> steadfastly and working together toward our collectively espoused 
> goals.
> I have posted the information that I can gather.  There may be 
> issues
> that I have not foreseen, that require the expertise of IEEE admin 
> and
> tech staff to consider.  Maybe the "nihil obstat" way really is 
> best:
> 
> Are there any objections to:  (1) subscribing the Main SUO
> reflector to the Gmane Newsgroup server on a trial basis,
> (2) exporting the SUO Archive to make up a Gmane Archive
> that would serve as a partial mirror, not a replacement
> for our existing archive?  NB.  In order to complete
> the quickest possible trial solution to the volume
> problem, SUO admin would need to return the list
> parameters to the days of yesteryear when any
> person could post to the list, whether that
> person be subscribed or not.  We stopped
> this practice during a season of massive
> spam assaults and virus attacks, but
> I believe that those problems have
> now been remedied in other ways.
> Of course, we may find out
> otherwise.  But let's see.
> 
> Jon Awbrey
> 
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> 
> 

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