SUO: Re: SUOP Topic :> Enabling Conditions Of Rational Discussion
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SUOPT :> ECORD. Note 2
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In: SUOP Topic Outline. http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd1.html#11635
Or: SUOP Topic Outline. http://suo.ieee.org/email/thrd2.html#11635
Re: Posting In General. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11838.html
Cf: SUOPT :> ECORD 01. http://suo.ieee.org/email/msg11856.html
JA = Jon Awbrey
JS = Jim Schoening
JS: I request we attempt to work this off-line. I can't image many
members having an interest in following this, but we can invite
others to be copied. Do you agree to attempt to resolve this
off-line? If so, please demonstrate this by not posting this
to the list.
JS: I also request we get on the phone and discuss this.
If you agree, please send me your number and I'll call.
I'm off work today.
JS: I am against written limits on postings, because they shouldn't be needed.
JS: The unwritten rules of email postings apply to everyone, so you are not
being held to a different standard. If I and others felt anyone else
was exceeding them, we would work them also.
Jim,
I'll ask for your acknowledgement of the following
two principles, one my own, and one more general:
1. When you request me to engage in non-public communication
about matters of official business of this Group, you are
asking me to go against an ethical principle of mine that
I try to observe as best as humanly possible. This need
not be your ethical principle, of course, but it is mine,
and I ask you to respect the rulings of my conscience in
these matters. I have discussed this principle with you
on several occasions, but should you still not understand
this ethical principle, I will endeavor to supply you with
a more articulate statement of it.
2. We currently have different descriptions of the present conditions.
This gives us different diagnoses of what the real causes might be.
In the upshot, our sundry descriptions and variant hypotheses lead
us to different opinions about what the remedies of choice will be.
Inasmuch as this is a matter that deserves our undistracted attention,
with all due circumspection and critical reflection on the causes and
the consequences of our acts and our decisions, indeed, that promises
to challenge, as it has in times past, our utmost powers of reasoning,
I suggest that we put it aside until after the Holidays in the States,
after which time I will make a formal motion, or raise a formal issue
under the aegis of the Procedure Work Programme, where I believe that
the questions involved would be given the most careful attention, and
would enjoy their most favorable opportunity of being resolved to the
moderately expectable satisfaction of everyone who has a stake in the
outcome, which is, I believe, every participant of this Working Group.
Jon Awbrey
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