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SUO: RE: Meta*Whatever,,,




Dear Bill:

Do what?



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
Bill Andersen
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:32 AM
To: West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE
Cc: SUO; Jon Awbrey
Subject: SUO: Meta*Whatever,,,




On Nov 24, 2003, at 0409, West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE wrote:

> For me the problem is how you do it, and in particular the bandwidth
> you consume. Taking myself, I can probably afford about 1 hour a day
> going through what is on the SUO lists and contributing to SUO
> deliverables like the Procedures Document. I usually find that at least
> half that time, and often more is spent processing your posts. This
> detracts from what I might contribute myself.

Dear Matthew...

The reasons you cite are those why I no longer read (other than to 
track - as you do the IEEE Ontology list) nor contribute to this list.  
You will notice that, in addition to your time being siphoned off by 
Mr. Awbrey, that of John Sowa and others, who clearly could put that 
time to better use if they weren't nice folks who feel bound to be 
polite to Mr. Awbrey's bandwidth-squatting ways, is being wasted as 
well.

Dear SUOers...

Allow me to suggest something of potential interest for those of you 
still reading this list that still may care about producing something 
usable from all this -- while this sort of desultory exchange is going 
on here, the W3C and DAML+OIL communities are pressing forward 
full-force, ignoring Ontology as we in this list have viewed it, 
capturing the public interest with wild claims about how everything 
will magically fit together once the SW is in place, and ultimately 
gobbling up the research and commercial dollars / pounds / euros / ... 
that are being spent on "ontology".  They have the "mindshare", real 
Ontology does not.  BTW, you have noticed that *none* of what goes on 
there is about content...

It is up to you.  If you want to place your desire to be inclusive of 
those who have no respect for you or your time and wish to use this 
public forum as their personal soapbox above your desire to produce a 
product then this is the list for you.  If not, then let me suggest you 
do something about it.

  .bill

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