SUO: RE: SUOP Topic :> Definition Of Issue
Dear Jon,
See comments below.
Matthew West
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:jawbrey@att.net]
> Sent: 19 November 2003 16:36
> To: SUO; West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE
> Subject: Re: SUOP Topic :> Definition Of Issue
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> SUOPT :> Issue. Note 7
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> JA = Jon Awbrey
> MW = Matthew West
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> Matthew,
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> I will continue logging the course of this discussion in
> a way that its details can be found more easily in future.
> I have noticed a tendency in the Leadership of this Group
> to ignore what they perhaps regard as uncomfortable Issues.
> Still, I believe that it would accord with general Consent:
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> Duty demands of Leadership that it face less facile Issues.
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> MW: I have heard no objection to anyone being able
> to raise an issue against an SUO deliverable,
> so I will update the Procedures document to
> reflect this.
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> JA: Yes, I think this to be the wisest course.
> Needless to say, the Procedure document
> is itself among the Deliverables.
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> I remind you that we do not have a Definition of Issue yet.
MW: See the definitions section of Draft 3. There at least is
a definition of Formal Issue, which is the only type I need to
be concerned with at present.
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> Indeed, we do not even have Consensus on the Principles
> that might govern arriving at such a Definition, neither
> of the concept of Issue nor of any other Concept or Term.
MW: I have added some notes preceding the definitions section as
to how I am approaching definitions, and what needs defining. I
will expect your comments.
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> Indeed, my sense is that you continue to ignore the Issues
> that I have raised with regard to this Topic, perhaps even
> to deny their status as Issues.
MW: I don't think I have been ignoring them, but equally I am
not sure I can make sense of all of them either, which makes appropriate
action difficult. Any way take a look at Draft 3 where I have tried
to respond as best I can to the deluge you have subjected me to.
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> That is, of course, a very Typical pattern of Conduct, but that
> does not mean by any means that it should be assented to as Normal,
> in effect, capitulated to as the Norm. The Humpty Dumpty Doctrine
> notwithstanding, I observe that many people cite H.D. approvingly
> without reading far enough to assimilate the Moral of the story.
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> I advise you that I consider this to be a very serious Matter,
> and thus I consider it my Obligation to persist in raising it.
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> Just a bit of friendly Advice, as I believe
> that it will save time in future to address
> these Issues at the outset, instead of later.
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> Jon Awbrey
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