RE: SUO: SUO Procedures
Dear Murray,
See comments below.
Matthew West
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murray Altheim [mailto:m.altheim@open.ac.uk]
> Sent: 12 November 2003 21:26
> To: West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE
> Cc: Standard-Upper-Ontology (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: SUO: SUO Procedures
>
>
> West, Matthew R SITI-ITPSIE wrote:
> [...]
> > Any comments? (silence is taken as consent).
>
> Only on that last comment. Silence should not be taken as consent,
MW: Yes of course. Perhaps I should say that silence when you had
something to say will result in what you deserve, but there will
be plenty of opportunities to contribute, not just at this stage.
> only that people's bandwidth is being taken up elsewhere. Until
> you have some voting one is alone with one's assumptions.
MW: We have already had some voting, as I recall you just missed it.
> I learned
> that one on the HTML WG, where I could never get a vote to be taken
> in several years of trying since those in control of the process
> didn't want to know the real tally and be forced to follow it (and
> straw polls are dangerous when you can't get a real vote; they can
> be used as a weapon to create a false consensus).
MW: We have had a few votes, and they have been revealing. I am trying
to establish some procedures for deliverable delelopment that will
encourage an open approach where it is hard to hide from facts and
valid criticism.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to do what is now commonly done in most open
> source projects, i.e., ask for a +- vote from everyone?
MW: I am really looking for contributions "what's missing" rather
than approval/dissaproval.
MW: Also we do not have a process to do this. The only voting process
we have is a very formal process of proposing a motion, discussing it
under Robert's Rules and having a vote over say a fortnight period.
I suggest you look through the recent discussion and vote on my
motion to see how that works. Perhaps we need to add something
along the lines you suggest in the procedures.
>
> Murray
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> Murray Altheim
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