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SUO: Re: Natural language




Chris,

Interesting point:

CP> My point is just that language evolves. This evolution
 > has historically starts with qualms which are then resolved.
 > Surely you cannot object to this! And historically the
 > looseness (technical not prejorative) of use of terms
 > dealing with identity has been an area where there has
 > been evolution in the past.

But what I was objecting to is that you seem to think
that a 4D ontology is somehow an improvement over what
people use in ordinary language.  I certainly agree that
it is different, and I also agree for some purposes, it
is more useful than a 3D ontology.  But I would certainly
not recommend a 4D ontology as a replacement for a 3D
ontology -- it is just one more ontology to throw into
the pot (or lattice or any other modularization you prefer).

And I really object to the word "qualm" because it
suggests that there is something to be corrected in the
way people use notions of identity.  I certainly agree
that identity is a very context-dependent notion,
and it is very dangerous to assume any fixed notion
of identity as the foundation for ontology.

That is one of my primary objections to DOLCE:  They
put far too much emphasis on identity as something that
is supposed to be fundamental to ontology.  The DOLCE
solution is to relate identity to the concept type --
but that just creates even more confusion.  They
end up with multiplicities of individuals in every
space-time region depending on the whim of anybody who
happens to classify what they see.

Identity is a very useful notion, but it is fundamentally
context dependent.  It is something to be explicated,
not a concept that you can use to explicate anything else.

John