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SUO: Re: Lifecycle Integration Schema




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LIS.  Discussion Note 41

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JA = Jon Awbrey
MW = Matthew West

JA: I have voted NO the first question and YES on the second question,
    but I am still open to having my mind changed on the first issue.
    My concerns with the first proposal are these:

MW: And there was me thinking that it was the first motion
    that was uncontroversial!

JA: The spirit of the motion is all mom and apple pie, as we 
    say over here, but between the spirit and the letter many
    a head has been seen to roll.  My fear and trembling, etc.
    is over seeing yet another robot's rules of order approach
    to questions of inquiry and engineering.  Orderly method,
    where we find it, is a boon to inquiry, but the brand of 
    language game that lawyers can beat engineers at 99 times
    out of 100 is more often than not used to quash any attempt
    to address the real problems that exist in plain sight.

MW: This sounds like "We might fail so let's not try".
    I would rather say "Don't try unless you are prepared
    to fail".  Of course it could all go wrong, but I've
    worked in contentious environments and have positive
    experience of applying processes that encourage good 
    outcomes where previously there was underachievement,
    so I have reason not to be so pessimistic.

JA: Not in the least.  That might be a fair comment if we hadn't both been
    working here for the last 3+ years, and paying attention to what keeps
    happening on a recurring basis.  I am saying "We have already fallen --
    now how exactly are we going to get up?"  Experience tells me what can
    happen, and it's not pessimism to draw on that experience in order to
    make different mistakes, at least, the next time around.
 
JA: So I have a real need to ask specific questions about the design
    of your procedures, just like I have a real need to ask specific
    questions, based on my real experiences, good and bad, with what
    actually happens in reality, about the design and the operating
    characteristics of the new-fangled furnace that I'll be buying
    this week.

JA: Let me try to rephrase the question this way:

    1.  How do we know when a problem is really solved?

MW: A problem is identified when an issue is formally raised (which might be
    after some informal discussion).  The issue is formally solved when both
    the person raising the issue and the person charged with resolving it
    agree that it is solved.  They may be wrong of course, but then the
    issue will recur later.

Why will it recur later?

JA: I, too, have positive experiences with methods that work.
    And that's precisely why I have always tried to approach
    our work here in the spirit of the literature-reading and
    problem-solving seminars in which I spent the greater part
    of a decade as a multiphase alternating cycle grad student
    in comp sci, math, psych, and stats.  I do not recommend it
    as a way to pick up a degree in a hurry, but it was the best
    way there was to learn the subjects in question.  Most of my
    math professors and some of my psych professors understood the
    the fact that their D.Phil.s and Ph.D.s gave them but the first
    elements of a small fraction of their subjects, and it was usual
    to spend the rest of their lives trying to teach each other a bit
    more of the subject, and to work together to try and tackle a few
    more of the vast array of problems that remain yet to be conquered.

JA: Given that experience as an idea of how things ought to work,
    the question for me is whether the design of your procedures
    will give this fallen effort that kind of a lift up, or not.

MW: I would say that it supports it, but does not enforce it.
    It would give you a place to put issues where they would be
    visible, at least until resolved.  I would consider that the
    number and seriousness of issues should weigh on those who are
    voting to advance a document in the process, and certainly what
    is acceptable as a standard.

JA: I am suspicious of bureaucratic procedures that achieve 
    an illusion of consensus about a given issue or a pretence
    of credibility for a given document, when no such consensus
    or credibility really exists.  We have had our fill of such
    procedures already, and so I am naturally somewhat wary of
    seeing anymore of this kind of sleight-of-hand.

MW: It is a common misapprehension of standards that they "enforce"
    some thing or other. In fact their sole purpose is to prevent
    you from having to reinvent something mundane everytime you
    want to use it.  In this case the mundane thing is how to
    raise the quality of something by noting defects and
    systematically trying to remove them, against some
    stated quality criteria.

JA: Again, I stand up and salute this glorious flag.
    But that is not the problem that I'm worried about.
    The original furnace in our 20 year old house having
    seen the last days of its lifecycle of faithful service,
    I'd like to think that all of the various certifications
    brochured before our eyes by the heating and cooling guys,
    from ACRIS to AFUE to NATE to SEER to UL, and many whose
    logos these old eyes are far too farseeing to unravel at
    close range, actually mean something.

JA: What I hope for in the semantics of these logos is that some body
    of technically competent engineers and humanely-minded ergo-nomics
    professionals have all done their homework, both when they went to
    school in schools of engineering and ergo-nomics, and when it came
    to deciding whether to stamp their logo on these 8.5 x 11 glossies.
    And beyond all that, I hope that there was some overarching spirit
    of public and human interest in the performance of this competence.

JA: The devil or the god, as they say,
    depending on how you translate it,
    is in the details.

MW: The process would tend to support those
    that stubbornly point out reality.

Yet another cliche involving wishful thinking.
I wish I was so good at this wishful thinking.
The question is:  How will the programme design
support those who stubbornly point out realities,
since we all know that this doesn't always happen
the way that we wish and hope and promise it will?

JA: That is the long run hope, of course, and I share it.
    But just saying that a given design of procedure will
    do what you say is not enough.  I have seen a kind of
    short-run process that does just the opposite of what
    you say, ignoring what are obvious realities to just
    about everybody who is not already hypnotized by the
    procedural ritual.  But it's become some kind of sin
    here to mention the fact that there is knowledge out
    there that many communities of knowledge consider to
    be quite "standard" already, that if our start-work
    documents do not contain it, and if our pet logical
    formalisms have trouble dealing with it, then they
    will remain non-starters for the rest of the world,
    whatever local "status" we might dub them with.

MW: Well the process has a political dimension to it.
    So people will get what they deserve in the end.

So the Challenger and Columbia crews
got what they deserved in the end?

JA: So it comes down to the next question:

JA: 2.  How can you tell when people have done their homework?

MW: Well personally it is because people can explain what they
    are doing clearly and concisely, and do not rely on taking
    arbitrary decisions (decisions are the enemy of discovery)
    to justify their position.

Easy for you to say -- but at least you are engaged in explaining.

JA: Here we are talking about (1) procedures for solving
    the actual problems that reality throws at us, and
    (2) procedures for solving the associated problems
    that arise in discussions among communities of 
    people who have radically diverse viewpoints
    with respect to the nature and implications
    for action of the initial problems, up to
    and including whether problems of these
    descriptions really exist.

JA: From my perspective, there is already a method for converging on
    a state of congruence with both our society and our reality, and
    that is known as the method of scientific inquiry, as exemplified
    by all of the ways that problems are actually solved and phenomena
    are really explained in the research endeavors of all our various
    communities of inquiry.  So I am reluctant to settle for anything
    that is proposed to serve as a second-rate substitute for that.
 
MW: I have no objection to scientific enquiry, and I think 
    the Quality Process that is at the heart of what I am
    proposing is quite compatible with it.  It just provides
    a little structure which amongst other things would mean
    that you knew where you were.
 
JA: We all have good intenstions at heart.  We set up procedures that are
    hopefully designed to actualize our intentions and maintain all sorts
    of set-points within the domains of our essential operating variables.
    I worry about the thermostat.  Has it been designed, hopefully or not
    so hopefully, to inform us when this control system is out of control?
    By what measures should we recognize that the idiot lights are rather
    more idiotic than is nominally acceptable?  These are real questions
    of design-to-task and design-for-testing.

MW: It is out of control, or not controlling at least,
    when there are large numbers of issues that are
    rejected.

JA: Yes, that's one clue.

JA: Furthermore, I do not how any such work programme can be rendered
    enforceable among people who do not already see the need of it,
    except by means of coercion of various sorts, the main problem
    here being that, once the power of coercion toward assent is
    instituted, it almost always ends up being abused in ways
    that corrupt the good ends intended.

MW: It can't of course be enforced.  The best we get is what we deserve.
    If people work and operate this process diligently I have seen it
    produce great results, when people try to cheat the process for
    the illusion of progress, I have seen poor results.  It is not
    a silver bullet.

JA: I think that we deserve better than we are currently getting.
    How do we address the gap between the suopper and the desert?

MW: The best safeguard it contains is the occassional formal votes 
    amongst peers.  If people take their obligations for the votes
    seriously, then progress should only be allowed when supported
    by evidence.

JA: The safety of this safeguard, and whether what should be will be,
    depends on how well informed are those who vote on the questions.

MW: It would be helpful if at least people
    understood what they did not know.

JA: In my experience, it takes work to understand the things
    that I wasn't born knowing about, and it takes work to
    understand the things that I was born knowing about.

JA: How would your work programme facilitate that?

MW: No magic here.  I know no cure for human frailty.

JA: I did not say "magic".  I am a little too old for that.
    I did not even say "guarantee".  Too old for that, too.
    When we finally blazon the IEEE logo on SUO, somewhere in
    the 24th Century, they'll probably want a limited warranty.
    So I have to stress:  How will your design "facilitate" that.

MW: It is the visibility of the issues that is the critical thing,
    and that the raiser has to agree that it is resolved.

JA: Look, Matthew, these are not academic or rhetorical questions.
    Here in the US we are agonizingly working our way through the
    aftermath of the Columbia disaster, the aftermath of which is
    astoundingly like the aftermath of the Challenger disaster.
    And all the after-the-math commission reports point to
    a culture of institutionalized ignoramming of what all
    the techies were telling all the de-tachees all along.
    The question is, when are the organizational systems
    that "enculturate" people this way going to wake up
    and do the pre-math, so we don't have to keep doing
    the aftermath?  That is the question.  Call it #3.
    But it really should have been #1.

MW: It all comes down to visibility.
    That is the secret weapon of
    this process.

How will your programme make visible
a culture of winking at real data,
a culture of deliberate agnosia?

Jon Awbrey

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