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Re: SUO: RE: Ontology, Epistemology, Semiotics




On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Mike Pool wrote:
 
> Cathy, 
> 
 > I'm one of the Peircean unwashed and hence appreciate the attempt at a 
 simple example.   Could you say a bit more about how this example 
 illuminates or exemplifies the notion of  Thirdness?  I'm still a bit 
 confused.   After all, couldn't I say more about GIVINGEVENT001, e.g., 
 (date GIVINGEVENT001 D),  (eventOccursAt GIVINGEVENT001 E), etc,, and 
 wouldn't this then involve an implicit quartic, quintic, etc. relation of 
 identity?   So why does this demonstrate Thirdness as opposed to, say, 
 Fourthness or Fifthness or whatever?

Hi Mike,

Good argument!

Others have been saying this in their own way, but the way I would put it 
is that you could add (date GIVINGEVENT001 D) and posit a quaternary 
relation of identity but you don't have to. Instead you could make do with 
(the more clumsy):

(giver GIVINGEVENT001 A)
(givee GIVINGEVENT001 C)

(gift GIVINGEVENT002 B) 
(date GIVINGEVENT002 D)

(equals GIVINGEVENT001 GIVINGEVENT002)

Note that no further reduction can be performed, though, since we need the 
identity relation to be transitive and transitivity is itself a triadic 
relation.

Apologies to all on the list who are totally sick of three-ness.

Cathy.

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