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SUO: Re: Charter vs. Consensus




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Eric,

This brings up yet another facet of the objective of achieving consensus,
as it begins from a state of disconsensus, namely, that many of the words
and phrases of the charter, or scope and purpose document, have just as
many different ways of being read from different perspectives in this
(dis-)community as any of the other words and phrases that we have
to discuss in the content-oriented and method-oriented subtasks.
And though referring to the prior compact certainly helps to
reduce uncertainty from time to time, it cannot, in the
absence of consensual interpretations, achiving which
is a part of the original problem, reduce it all that
much, nor ever absolutely, when it comes to that.
All subcommunities, some of the time, and some
subcommunities, all of the time, would like
to appoint themselves the sole-sufficient
interpreters of the charter, but there
is no reason to expect that they will
happen in a free and open society.

So what Jim said initially continues to be apt.
The question that remains is how to achieve this
consensus in a way that is genuine and not forced.

Jon Awbrey

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Eric Peterson wrote:
> 
> Moreover,
> 
> I was told that the charter was a passed motion.  If so, it is binding
> and is amendable only by a 2/3 majority (RRO 10th Edition p. 12, line 25).
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jim.s3@juno.com [mailto:jim.s3@juno.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:54 AM
> > To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> > Subject: SUO: Charter vs. Consensus
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Consensus is what matters.  The PAR Scope and Purpose really doesn't
> > matter that much.  It shouldn't prevent us from doing anything, or
> > force us to do anything else.  If and when we finish a document
> > with enough consensus to pass an IEEE ballot, if it doesn't
> > match the Scope and Purpose, we simple amend it or submit
> > a new one.
> >
> > Jim

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