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Zenchipman@cs.com a écrit :

> jld@CLUB-INTERNET.FR writes:
> Juan Elevancini [=JE] a écrit :
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/semanticweb/message/917)
> JE>So if you allow me the analogy, the W3C is like the UN,
> JE>and MS is the company with hegemonic ambitions. :-)
 
JLD>  Ouch!
JLD>  If this analogy is to be pursued, that would mean that
JLD>  both AND the "rest of us" are in deep shit!
> 
> Not deep doo doo - but creative energy.

Yeah! Lots of *wasted* creative energy.
(business/media/academic politics and fads  will suck it all)

>If everyone agreed, boring, and not
> able to make any progress.  Stress, differences - like language itself,
> ambiguous - this is a tough step to take.  
>Let's enjoy the journey.

I don't enjoy acting like a monkey or even just a bacteria!
As, may be, a bacteria-like yourself you seem to miss entirely my point.

Of course SOMETHING will come out of this frantic activity of mucking around with semantics,
ontologies, RDF and the like.
And the final usefull (hopefully...) outcome will be shaped up by some darwinian selection process.

But are not we supposed, as "homo-sapiens", to be endowed with a BRAIN which purpose is to simulate
and anticipate problems and situations 
from the outside world in order to sort out faster the *better* solutions rather than plain
trial-and-error?

So, could the wannabees "heroes of the Semantic Revolution" ask themselves WHAT are their ultimate
purposes, 
WHAT are the problems likely to be encountered, and if by any chance they have not been investigated
BEFORE?

Instead of reinventing the wheel:
  http://www.tfeb.org/texts/wheel-of-reinvention.html
(from http://cliki.tunes.org/TUNES%20vs%20the%20WWW)

The ONLY difference with respect to previous AI efforts (and this semantic wrangling IS Artificial
Intelligence stuff) is the mere mass amount of activity thrown at the problem.
But this is only a LINEAR (if huge...) increase of ressources used against an exponentially hard
topic, guess who will win?
Entropy or the monkeys/bacterias?

I mentioned the well known metaphor already, but do you think that 
"a million typewriting monkeys will eventually, and by pure chance, produce the entire works of
Shakespeare"?

Shakespeare used ANOTHER approach!

Best.

-- Jean-Luc Delatre
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