Re: SUO: OpenCyc Motion
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:21:42PM -0400, Mike Pool wrote:
> Hi Jim and Pierluigi:
> I'm very pleased that Cycorp is offering OpenCyc as a possible SUO
> standard. However, to reiterate a point made earlier by Adam, I think this
> motion would be less problematic if didn't also propose the
> consideration/development of CycML and CycL.
> I'm not completely sure what CycML is but it seems to provide a markup
> standard for knowledge entry files. It includes editing commands for a
> particular implementation of the Cyc ontology, e.g., 'blast', 'kill',
> 'unassert' but doesn't appear to propose very much in terms of upper
> ontology content. I'm not sure why it is being put forward for
> consideration by this group.
> Secondly, is it part of this group's purpose to make a decision as to
> whether CycL or any language is to be the/a knowledge representation
> language for IEEE standard ontology? Even if does make sense for us to
> focus our energy on the selection and development of a KRL, it seems that
> the decision of whether or not to consider/develop OpenCyc is based on very
> different sorts of considerations than a question of whether or not to
> consider/develop CycL as a standard KRL.
> Hence, I'm not sure it makes sense to conflate the two decisions in a
> single motion.
> Pierluigi, I'm wondering if you would consider retracting this motion and
> resubmitting it as three separate motions.
It was our intention that these 3 things -- opencyc, cycL, cycML -- be
considered as 3 separable (i.e., potentially separate) items on the SUO
agenda. Perhaps the phrasing didn't make this as clear as could have
been. So I would not be against splitting this up, if that makes things
clearer for voting members. Jim can clarify further if we need 3 separate
motions, or just 3 separate items on a motion (which I thought we already
> best regards,
> Mike Pool
> At 10:43 PM 5/31/2002 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
> >SUO WG,
> > Pierluigi Miraglia is now making this motion, since he is a voting
> >member and John Deliveira (who originally made the motion) is not.
> > Is there a second for this motion? (One will do.)
> >Jim Schoening
> >From: Pierluigi Miraglia [firstname.lastname@example.org]
> >Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:42 PM
> >To: email@example.com
> >Cc: John DeOliveira
> >Subject: Re: proposal for SUO
> >Hi Jim, on behalf of John DeOliveira here is our opencyc resubmission:
> >I propose that the OpenCyc Ontology be accepted as a starter document for
> >the IEEE P1600.1 Standard Upper Ontology Working Group, because it
> >the purpose of the project as defined at
> >Additionally, I propose that CycL be accepted in the starter document as
> >standard language for the representation of knowledge using the OpenCyc
> >Ontology and that CycML be accepted in the starter document as a standard
> >for serializing knowledge based on the OpenCyc Ontology.
> >OpenCyc is suitable for automated logical inference to support
> >knowledge-based reasoning applications, including e-commerce and other
> >applications enabled by natural language understanding.
> >It also supports interoperability among software applications. It is
> >extensible, provides a common vocabulary, and is suitable for mapping
> >to/from other ontologies.
> >The OpenCyc Ontology is currently a beta release, and it will be
> >changes in the coming months. Documentation pertaining to the OpenCyc
> >ontology (to the extent that it currently exists) can be found at the
> >following links:
> >The DAML version of OpenCyc v0.6b
> >The HyperDAML version of OpenCyc v0.6b
> >OpenCyc Selected Vocabulary v0.6b
> >(not the entire Upper Ontology; organized by "subject clumps", which are
> >not part of the ontology)
> >The Syntax of CycL
> >The latest schema for CycML
> >If you have any questions or need further clarification on any of this,
> >please contact me. Thank you.
> >Pierluigi Miraglia
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Pierluigi Miraglia Cycorp, Inc.
Ontological Engineer 3721 Executive Center Dr.
(512) 514-2988 Austin, TX 78731