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Re: SUO: Theory Query




Chris,

A few remarks:

  1. I really don't care about the continuum hypothesis, since I have
     long had doubts about "Cantor's paradise" as Hilbert called it.

  2. I agree that one can define a one-to-one mapping between the
     two lattices.

  3. But some mappings are more "natural" than others, in the sense
     that you can also apply them to finite subsets (where simple
     counting is a good measure).  An example is the set of primes,
     which become consistenly more sparse as you go to larger integers.

  4. The work on measure theory in analysis is an example of the way
     one can define "natural" measures to distinguish the size of sets
     whose cardinality in Cantor's sense happens to be identical.

  5. I'll admit that I don't have a good definition of "measure" for
     the two lattices we have been talking about, and I don't care to
     take the time to bother defining some kind of measure.  But I have
     a feeling that some "natural" measure would make the lattice of
     all subsets significantly "bigger" than the lattice of deductive
     closures.

  6. I agree with you that when we consider the complete deductive
     closures, the relation of "A implies B" is equivalent to
     "B is a subset of A".  But for most applications, we will only
     be looking at finite axiomatizations for which implication is
     the primary relation we have to work with.

  7. And I agree that most current textbooks restrict the term
     "tautology" in the way that you prefer.  But as I have said
     many times, most current textbooks are woefully deficient in
     the way they teach logic -- and the current distaste for logic
     among significant numbers of programmers is just one symptom
     of that deficiency.  (Of course, the current use of "tautology"
     is a rather trivial issue, but it arises from an outmoded way
     of teaching proof theory.)

John