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SUO: RE: RE: 2000-7-26 example




Chris,

	In the current version of the SUMO, your concept of
"executive-position" would be a subclass of 'PersonBySocialRole', which, in
turn, is a subclass of 'CognitiveAgent'.  Note that 'CognitiveAgent'
subsumes, but is not identical with, the concept of 'Human' in the SUMO.

-Ian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Partridge [mailto:chris_partridge@csi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:30 AM
> To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> Cc: Yang Yun
> Subject: SUO: RE: 2000-7-26 example
> 
> 
> 
> Hi yy,
> 
> I think there is some confusion here that touches on an area 
> of my current
> research.
> 
> I think executive is a sub-type of person (in the legal sense) as are
> Executive Committee, First Minister, the deputy First Minister and the
> Northern Ireland Ministers. In the case of Executive 
> Committee we have a
> committee-person and the others a position-person. None of 
> these are of
> course human beings, as is clear from an elementary knowledge 
> of the law (or
> the TOVE or EO Ontologies).
> 
> Of course persons (in the legal sense) can be and often are formed by
> (consist of) other persons. However this must be defined 
> quite carefully if
> it is not to lead to odd results.
> 
> I presume that SUMO does not identify executive-positions 
> with human beings,
> as either the TOVE or EO Ontologies were merged into it.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-standard-upper-ontology@majordomo.ieee.org]On 
> Behalf Of Yang
> Yun
> Sent: 22 August 2001 17:02
> To: standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org
> Subject: SUO: 2000-7-26 example
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>Perhaps as an example, in identifying the meaning of "executive" in
> >>the following sentence, it will probably not be useful to identify
> >>merely events, properties, attributes, classes, actions and
> >>similar. Instead, one needs at least domain specific knowledge
> >>about possible concepts (and their linguistic realizations) in the
> >>field of "politics".
> 
> >>"On his arrival in Belfast, there was no sign of an end to the deep
> >>divisions between Sinn Fein and the Ulster Unionists on the
> >>formation of a new executive for Northern Ireland and on the
> >>decommissioning of all paramilitary weapons."
> 
> >>Nevertheless, I understand the objective of the SUO project is to
> >>define higher levels first which will give anchors for lower level,
> >>domain specific ontologies. This is a reasonable objective,
> >>although it may be more effective to start from the lower levels
> >>and combine, merge them at an appropriate time
> >>into a more abstract higher level ontology.
> >>
> >>
> >>      Paul Buitelaar
> >>      DFKI Language Technology
> >>      Saarbrücken, Germany
> >>
> >>      http://www.dfki.de/~paulb/
> 
> 
> 
> This example shows the need to consider domain-specific uses
> of words eg use of executive in UK politics. The meaning is
> defined by statute to be :
> http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/80047--d.htm#20
> or "cabinet" in the US.
> 
> 
> Adam Pease below argues the example shows that a standard ontology
> could help disambiguate 2 common senses of executive ie manager
> (person) and administration (governing body). Since a person
> cannot form another person, the meaning must be administration.
> 
> Maybe not, because Section 20 says the executive is comprised
> of people (first minister, deputy, and others).Why should a
> reasoner know that a person cannot form these people either?
> 
> yy
> 
> -------included message---------------
>  From: apease
> To: Paul Buitelaar ; SUO
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Call for vote on SUO Scope and Purpose]
> Date: Saturday, July 22, 2000 2:38 AM
> 
> 
> Paul,
>    I may have misunderstood your example, but it seems to me an
> excellent
> example in fact of how an upper ontology could assist in
> disambiguating
> natural language.
>    If we formulate your example sentence loosely as
> 
> (instance-of Formulate-Token1 CreationAction)
> (performedBy Formulate-Token1 SinnFein)
> (performedBy Formulate-Token1 UlsterUnionists)
> (objectActedOn Formulate-Token1 Executive-Lexeme2)
> 
> and we need to decide which is correct
> 
> (instance-of Executive-CompanyManager Executive-Lexeme2)
>    or
> (instance-of Executive-GoverningBody Executive-Lexeme2)
> 
> and we further assume that these terms have been defined with respect
> to an
> SUO, if the SUO has very general rules that state people can't create
> other
> adult humans, then the NLU system could pick the correct definition
> for the
> instance.
>    While the meanings of Executive-GoverningBody, SinnFein etc would
> have
> to be created in a domain specific ontology, the value of the SUO in
> this
> example seems clear to me.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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