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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim King
To: 'Schoening, James R CECOM DCSC4I'
Sent: 8/6/01 3:47 AM
Subject: RE: SUO E-mail Ballot -- Please Acknowledge receipt

I vote NO. 

The document has inspired seemingly futile arguments about the
classification hierarchy, which as a mechanism does not appear to be the
correct foundation for an ontology.  I also believe that the approach to
unit of measure is not adequate and I have received neither
authoritative nor detailed responses to my issues.  Thus, I am not
convinced that the document is on the right track in neither technical
approach nor the method of creation.

Cheers, 
Tim. 

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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Schoening, James R CECOM DCSC4I 
> [ mailto:James.Schoening@mail1.monmouth.army.mil
<mailto:James.Schoening@mail1.monmouth.army.mil> ] 
> Sent: 20 July 2001 04:31 
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> Subject: SUO E-mail Ballot -- Please Acknowledge receipt 
> 
> 
> ATTN Voting Members of SUO WG, 
> 
> 1. Please immediately acknowledge receipt of this email 
> letter ballot.  If I 
> do not receive within 3-days, I will contact you again.  We 
> want to make 
> sure all voting members receive this ballot.  The wording of 
> this ballot was 
> developed and reviewed by the SUO Policies & Procedures Subgroup. 
> 
> 2. This message is to Ballot the question : 
> 
>       "Should the IEEE P1600.1 Standard Upper Ontology Working Group 
> commence work on the Suggested Upper Merged Ontology (SUMO) 
> version 1.15 
> [June 22, 2001] posted at http://suo.ieee.org/Merge.txt
<http://suo.ieee.org/Merge.txt> , with 
> the intent of 
> developing it into the final SUO document?  
>       Note 1: See background information below for more details. 
>       Note 2: This may be one of several candidate documents to be 
> combined and aligned into the final SUO document via the 
> consensus building 
> process." 
> 
> 3. By 15 Aug '01, please vote YES (comments optional), NO (comments 
> required), or ABSTAIN (comments optional).  Please send your votes and

> comments directly to me, but you are also free to post to the 
> SUO list and 
> openly discuss this topic. 
> 
> 4. This vote will pass if it receives a majority of YES vs. NO votes. 
> ABSTAINS and non-votes are not counted in determining 
> majority. The Chair 
> may vote to make or break a tie. As all voting members will 
> have received 
> and acknowledge receipt of this ballot and will therefore have an 
> opportunity to vote, there will be no quorum of votes 
> required for this 
> motion to be determined. 
> 
> 5. Non-voting participants are welcome to express opinions and submit 
> comments. 
> 
> 6. Background: 
> 
>       a. The purpose of this vote is to determine the level 
> of consensus 
> we have for focusing work on this document.  In other words, 
> we need to 
> decide if we are going to go down this path or not.  A 
> working group may 
> decide to work on more than one document. 
> 
>       b. The primary purpose of this vote is NOT to propose 
> improvements 
> to the document, unless they are major enough for you to vote against 
> focusing work on this document.  However, such general 
> improvement comments 
> are welcome and will be resolved (but not unless and until 
> the vote passes, 
> since there would be no sense resolving comments if the group 
> does not want 
> to proceed 
> with this document. 
> 
>       c. If this vote passes, this document will change from being the

> work (and under the control) of a group of individuals to 
> being the work 
> (and under the control) of the SUO WG.  A Technical Editor 
> will be appointed 
> or elected, who will incorporate WG-approved changes into the 
> document. 
> This does not require frequent formal votes for every change. A better

> approach 
> for daily or weekly updates is to develop consensus by 
> resolving objections, 
> as we did 
> when revising the Scope and Purpose.  In other words, (1) the 
> Technical 
> Editor leads the discussion by processing the issues and 
> suggestions; (2)the 
> issues/suggestions identify proposed additions, changes, or 
> deletions to the 
> wording in the document; (3) the Technical Editor asks the WG for any 
> objections.  Items that do not have clear consensus would be 
> accumulated for 
> later, more formal processing, i.e., the proposer of the 
> issue/suggestion is 
> responsible for making a formal proposal (with a WG vote) for 
> the proposed 
> change.  
> 
> Jim Schoening 
> Chair, SUO WG 
> 
>