ONT RE: [topicmapmail] SUO: Re: RefLog Rides Again!
Re: " So what is your real problem with websites?!"
Information pollution!
Re: "Okay, if this way will not work, if it just seems to go against
human nature, then what way will work?"
Example of information pollution?
Maybe, just maybe that - after deleting all technical stuff (products,
companies, taxonomies, notations, artifacts etc), all marketing spin (what,
who, why etc) from http://www.informationweek.com/745/know.htm - what is
left is worth directing "into people's skulls".
Regards
WMJ
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From: topicmapmail-admin@infoloom.com
[mailto:topicmapmail-admin@infoloom.com]On Behalf Of Jon Awbrey
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:49 PM
To: John Bateman
Cc: Standardize Unto Others; Stand! Unfold! Ontology!; Topic Map Mail
Subject: [topicmapmail] SUO: Re: RefLog Rides Again!
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Hi John,
Sorry, but I don't really know you.
Maybe you could tell me about your
actual interests, sometime when/if
all of this hullaballo is through.
John Bateman wrote:
>
> > but then:
> >
> > "People do not read websites."
> >
> > Jon Awbrey
>
> People read websites when they think it is worth their while.
> As all the basic intros to websites tell you, if you have
> nothing that grabs interest, then all the pretty symbols
> in the world (and erudite ambiguity) won't get "people"
> to stop off there.
>
> So what is your real problem with websites?!
You are reading my statement out of context.
I am seeking an explanation for why we have
all this knowledge out there that people do
not seem to be availing themselves much of.
I know of some other groups who are trying
to build web dictionaries and thesauri who
apparently never think to consult any such
resource before they launch into dictating
usage, denotative or connotative, for other
folks. The SUO group is a lot like that in
many ways.
I related a hypothesis, though it has acquired by now
the force of an empirical generalization for me, that
suggests a relation between people and web resources,
including archives and domain specific content pages.
Why did you assume that the problem is with the pages?
I have no problem with these sorts of web resources.
I was radically addicted to surfing for more than a
year before I went into recovery, piling up a bookmark
file that currently weighs in at around 4 Megs, and for
that year or so I put all sorts of time into building an
intricately overlapping category structure that went about
ten levels deep. I used to have to make use of the resources
at the Links2Go and Ars Digita sites just to manage the mass,
that is, until their uploaders kept balking at around 2-3 Megs.
The last time that I checked there was still a mangled half of
my file at Ars Digita left from the last time their loader broke.
http://www.links2go.com/
http://www.arsdigita.com/
The problem is not with the resources. The problem is that
people write 'em, love 'em, leave 'em, but do not read 'em --
by which I mean that not a heck of a lot of this info seems
to make its way into people's skulls. And I think that the
evidence of this is, well, evident. I have cited the proofs
on several occasions. If it weren't so, things would be very
much otherwise than they currently are. So, being a positive
thinker by nature, I arrive at the point where I says to myself:
Okay, if this way will not work, if it just seems to go against
human nature, then what way will work? That is my chief question.
Jon Awbrey
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