RE: RE: SUO: Language & Effect of spelling on dyslexia
- To: "'Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff'" <include@worldnet.att.net>
- Subject: RE: RE: SUO: Language & Effect of spelling on dyslexia
- From: "Horn, Graham" <graham.horn@aihw.gov.au>
- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:55:18 +1100
- Cc: cg@cs.uah.edu, "'John F. Sowa'" <sowa@bestweb.net>, standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org, "Awbrey Jon (E-mail)" <jawbrey@oakland.edu>, "Niles Teknowledge Ian (E-mail)" <iniles@teknowledge.com>, "West R SSI-GREA-UK Matthew (E-mail)" <Matthew.R.West@is.shell.com>, "Kent E. Robert (E-mail)" <rekent@ontologos.org>, "Fuchs E. Norbert (E-mail)" <fuchs@ifi.unizh.ch>
- Reply-To: "Horn, Graham" <graham.horn@aihw.gov.au>
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Hi Linda,
. The issue of simplified / restricted / modified /
controlled languages was discussed at considerable length quite some time
ago. There were some proposals to develop the SUO in one, or at least have
such of a version of the SUO available, including Norbert Fuchs' "Attempto
Controlled English", or a development of it. There was rampant opposition
from various "logic" protagonists who could not conceive that any such
language could possibly express strict logic in any reliable and unambiguous
way.
. At the end of the day, there was no-one who was prepared to
put the developmental work in, much as Ian Niles, Matthew West, etc. are
doing now. The possibility of a simplified / restricted / modified /
controlled language version of the SUO does remain, however, should the
resources ever become available.
. To find out more, I suggest you look through the earlier
archives for this project's e-mail list.
Cheers Graham Horn
National Data Standards Unit
Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff [mailto:include@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:42 PM
To: cg@cs.uah.edu; Horn, Graham; 'John F. Sowa';
standard-upper-ontology@IEEE.org; Awbrey Jon (E-mail)
Subject: Re: RE: SUO: Language & Effect of spelling on dyslexia
Hi John and CG Group,
The posts re language reception and processing put me in mind of artificial
languages such as Esperanto (I guess there are several), minimalist (not to
minimize their value!) 'concept based' subsets of natural language, and I
guess ultimately programming languages with their reserve words, constants,
and operators.
Are there any principles of novelty/redundancy working here I'm wondering.
I recall working with type-token ratios, the ratio of 'forms' to occurrences
in communication systems. If too many unique types (variety) per instances
(repetitions), as I recall, the document was shown to be less "readable?."
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:) LindaMF.
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----- Original Message -----
From: John F. Sowa <sowa@bestweb.net>
To: Horn, Graham <graham.horn@aihw.gov.au>; 'John F. Sowa'
<sowa@bestweb.net>; <cg@cs.uah.edu>; <standard-upper-ontology@IEEE.org>;
Awbrey Jon (E-mail) <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:15 PM
Subject: CG: RE: SUO: Language & Effect of spelling on dyslexia
> Graham,
>
> I wasn't recommending spelling reform. I was merely pointing
> out that finally someone has found actual evidence of the effect
> of spelling on some important psychological processes.
>
> SR is a bramble patch that I would not enter without
> suitable protective covering.
>
> John
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